Comments on: A Great Real Food Find - at Preschool http://almostfit.com/2008/04/25/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/ Improving health by eating real food in moderation Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:31:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: krista http://almostfit.com/2008/04/25/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-1536 krista Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:22:56 +0000 http://almostfit.com/2008/04/23/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-1536 For some reason I am seeing this for the first time today! Thanks for this glowing endorsement MetroKnow. I would like to add a couple things about the naturopathic profession for which Metroknow has already laid a solid foundation. There is a big difference between a "certified" Naturopath and a "licensed" Naturopathic Physician. In Oregon and many states across the country, ND's who have been to a 4 plus year residential naturopathic medical institution are "licensed" by that state's licensing board and are legally entitled to use the word "doctor or physician." There are many folks out there who have received their training through correspondence who are also calling themselves "Naturopathic Doctors" or "Naturopaths." They are not "licensed" although they may have successfully completed a correspondence course and have learned a lot in the process about natural medicine. Below is some more information regarding licensed Naturopathic Physicians from the AANP wesite http://www.naturopathic.org: "Currently, 14 states, the District of Columbia, and the United States territories of Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands have licensing laws for naturopathic doctors. In these states, naturopathic doctors are required to graduate from a four-year, residential naturopathic medical school and pass an extensive postdoctoral board examination (NPLEX) in order to receive a license. For information about the Naturopathic Physicians Licensing Examination Board (NPLEX) and the North American Board of Naturopathic Examiners (NABNE), please see our Education page. Licensed naturopathic physicians must fulfill state-mandated continuing education requirements annually, and will have a specific scope of practice defined by their state's law. The states that currently have licensing laws for naturopathic physicians are: Alaska Arizona California Connecticut District of Columbia Hawaii Idaho Kansas Maine Montana New Hampshire Oregon Utah Vermont Washington United States Territories: Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands are considered primary care physicians. I hope this provides additional information to help to clarify the profession a little further. Thanks for initiating this MetroKnow! Krista Anderson Ross ND www.wholefoodmatters.blogspot.com For some reason I am seeing this for the first time today! Thanks for this glowing endorsement MetroKnow. I would like to add a couple things about the naturopathic profession for which Metroknow has already laid a solid foundation. There is a big difference between a “certified” Naturopath and a “licensed” Naturopathic Physician. In Oregon and many states across the country, ND’s who have been to a 4 plus year residential naturopathic medical institution are “licensed” by that state’s licensing board and are legally entitled to use the word “doctor or physician.” There are many folks out there who have received their training through correspondence who are also calling themselves “Naturopathic Doctors” or “Naturopaths.” They are not “licensed” although they may have successfully completed a correspondence course and have learned a lot in the process about natural medicine. Below is some more information regarding licensed Naturopathic Physicians from the AANP wesite
http://www.naturopathic.org:
“Currently, 14 states, the District of Columbia, and the United States territories of Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands have licensing laws for naturopathic doctors. In these states, naturopathic doctors are required to graduate from a four-year, residential naturopathic medical school and pass an extensive postdoctoral board examination (NPLEX) in order to receive a license. For information about the Naturopathic Physicians Licensing Examination Board (NPLEX) and the North American Board of Naturopathic Examiners (NABNE), please see our Education page.

Licensed naturopathic physicians must fulfill state-mandated continuing education requirements annually, and will have a specific scope of practice defined by their state’s law. The states that currently have licensing laws for naturopathic physicians are:

Alaska
Arizona
California
Connecticut
District of Columbia
Hawaii
Idaho
Kansas
Maine
Montana
New Hampshire
Oregon
Utah
Vermont
Washington
United States Territories: Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands
are considered primary care physicians.

I hope this provides additional information to help to clarify the profession a little further. Thanks for initiating this MetroKnow!

Krista Anderson Ross ND
http://www.wholefoodmatters.blogspot.com

]]> By: Metroknow http://almostfit.com/2008/04/25/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-579 Metroknow Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:42:20 +0000 http://almostfit.com/2008/04/23/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-579 @Arachne: Its funny that you mention chiropractors -- in my experience, they vary tremendously from one to the next. The "bone crackers" do nothing for me at all; I much prefer the gentle approach to realigning things. They are a good example though of a group of people that have been vilified by the mainstream. When you find the right one, they are a source of tremendous pain relief. On herbal teas, I am a fan of Yerba Mate, but not for weight loss per se -- I just like it. :) @Arachne: Its funny that you mention chiropractors — in my experience, they vary tremendously from one to the next. The “bone crackers” do nothing for me at all; I much prefer the gentle approach to realigning things. They are a good example though of a group of people that have been vilified by the mainstream. When you find the right one, they are a source of tremendous pain relief.

On herbal teas, I am a fan of Yerba Mate, but not for weight loss per se — I just like it. :)

]]> By: Arachne Jericho http://almostfit.com/2008/04/25/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-567 Arachne Jericho Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:13:59 +0000 http://almostfit.com/2008/04/23/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-567 Yes, it is quite difficult to sort out the good from the bad when it comes to alternative medicines. That said, I know that there are some trustworthy folks out there... and a lot of folks who are either demented, deluded, or plain old out to get your money. To that end research is necessary. And referrals from the clueful. My extent towards alternative stuff stops at chiropractors, herbal tea (though watch out---some of those "slimming" teas are not slimming nor healthy to drink in large amounts, yet are marketed as so---pfah), and neti pots. Though I don't think the last one counts. Yes, it is quite difficult to sort out the good from the bad when it comes to alternative medicines.

That said, I know that there are some trustworthy folks out there… and a lot of folks who are either demented, deluded, or plain old out to get your money. To that end research is necessary. And referrals from the clueful.

My extent towards alternative stuff stops at chiropractors, herbal tea (though watch out—some of those “slimming” teas are not slimming nor healthy to drink in large amounts, yet are marketed as so—pfah), and neti pots. Though I don’t think the last one counts.

]]> By: Metroknow http://almostfit.com/2008/04/25/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-556 Metroknow Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:37:14 +0000 http://almostfit.com/2008/04/23/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-556 @Christine: I definitely agree on the cautious approach, thanks to a lot of what I consider bogus (and sometimes really dangerous) advice from well intentioned individuals. My mother, for her medical condition, was strongly encouraged at one point to use bee sting therapy, which amounted to sticking her hand inside a box of angry bees and letting them get their aggression out - that was supposedly the cure-all for her condition (as I understood it). It has since been proven completely false. Since then, she has basically stopped telling anyone about her illness because of all the wacko advice that it encourages. That said, I attended a conference on her illness, and much to my surprise the question was raised to the panel of conventional medical experts in the field on whether alternative therapies were valid, to which a very lettered physician replied, "Well, if it works for you, keep doing it." That is an oversimplification of the conversation to be sure, but the point is it was surprising to me to see the open minded nature of a conventional physician, and it made me think about the possibility of _legitimate_ alternatives. But figuring out what "legitimate" actually consists of is the hardest part. I am willing to give a highly educated physician/certified N.D. the benefit of the doubt; but I am skeptical of the regulars at the health food store buying the latest supplements and system flushing weekend retreats giving valid advice. The snake oil has flowed for hundreds, if not thousands, of years in that context, and folks so desperate to preserve their health are easiest to be duped by big promises that are based on anecdotal evidence at best, and placebo-driven personal experience at worst. When we're talking about life and death as you are, you have to go with the thing that you feel offers you the best chance of survival, and quality of life. The very, very best of well wishes to you, and thank you again, so much, for your voice on the subject. @Christine: I definitely agree on the cautious approach, thanks to a lot of what I consider bogus (and sometimes really dangerous) advice from well intentioned individuals. My mother, for her medical condition, was strongly encouraged at one point to use bee sting therapy, which amounted to sticking her hand inside a box of angry bees and letting them get their aggression out - that was supposedly the cure-all for her condition (as I understood it). It has since been proven completely false. Since then, she has basically stopped telling anyone about her illness because of all the wacko advice that it encourages.

That said, I attended a conference on her illness, and much to my surprise the question was raised to the panel of conventional medical experts in the field on whether alternative therapies were valid, to which a very lettered physician replied, “Well, if it works for you, keep doing it.” That is an oversimplification of the conversation to be sure, but the point is it was surprising to me to see the open minded nature of a conventional physician, and it made me think about the possibility of _legitimate_ alternatives.

But figuring out what “legitimate” actually consists of is the hardest part. I am willing to give a highly educated physician/certified N.D. the benefit of the doubt; but I am skeptical of the regulars at the health food store buying the latest supplements and system flushing weekend retreats giving valid advice. The snake oil has flowed for hundreds, if not thousands, of years in that context, and folks so desperate to preserve their health are easiest to be duped by big promises that are based on anecdotal evidence at best, and placebo-driven personal experience at worst.

When we’re talking about life and death as you are, you have to go with the thing that you feel offers you the best chance of survival, and quality of life.

The very, very best of well wishes to you, and thank you again, so much, for your voice on the subject.

]]> By: Christine http://almostfit.com/2008/04/25/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-542 Christine Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:28:30 +0000 http://almostfit.com/2008/04/23/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-542 Very interesting article. I have become very suspicious of anything titled naturopathic, homeopathic or holistic. I guess that I have been sold some snake oil along the way. A lot of well meaning people have approached us about John's cancer and have tried to convince us that everything from Goji juice to some kind of bovine hormones would cure John. Due to the kidney damage the Goji juice could have actually harmed him. There are warnings posted at the renal clinic about it. He has to check with his onocoligist and nephrologist before taking anything. There can be bad drug reactions with seemingly harmless things. Having cancer is a magnet for quackery. I did not know that some of these people are legitimate and have had a lot of education. I guess it is important to check credentials. Very interesting article. I have become very suspicious of anything titled naturopathic, homeopathic or holistic. I guess that I have been sold some snake oil along the way. A lot of well meaning people have approached us about John’s cancer and have tried to convince us that everything from Goji juice to some kind of bovine hormones would cure John. Due to the kidney damage the Goji juice could have actually harmed him. There are warnings posted at the renal clinic about it. He has to check with his onocoligist and nephrologist before taking anything. There can be bad drug reactions with seemingly harmless things. Having cancer is a magnet for quackery. I did not know that some of these people are legitimate and have had a lot of education. I guess it is important to check credentials.

]]> By: Metroknow http://almostfit.com/2008/04/25/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-540 Metroknow Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:48:37 +0000 http://almostfit.com/2008/04/23/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-540 Hi Anne-Marie! That is funny on the captcha thing - At some point it was "salad", which was also quite funny. We really thought that the Farmer's Market would be our source for eggs too, but so far we've not been able to find eggs reliably at any of the Farmer's Markets here. Maybe this year it will be different! Hi Anne-Marie!

That is funny on the captcha thing - At some point it was “salad”, which was also quite funny. We really thought that the Farmer’s Market would be our source for eggs too, but so far we’ve not been able to find eggs reliably at any of the Farmer’s Markets here. Maybe this year it will be different!

]]> By: Anne-Marie http://almostfit.com/2008/04/25/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-535 Anne-Marie Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:53:36 +0000 http://almostfit.com/2008/04/23/a-great-whole-food-find-at-preschool/#comment-535 My captcha word for this comment was "dinner" - thematic spam control! We get our most reliable farm-fresh egg supply during farmer's market season, which started for us this week. I have had two of the most transcendent egg sandwiches ever to celebrate. Thanks for the link through to Krista Anderson Ross' blog - I'll definitely be checking that out. I think it's just what I've been looking for, or would have been looking for if I had taken the time to look. The Corvallis market doesn't yet have the bounty of the park blocks market, but we did get some wonderful looking collards, the aforementioned eggs, rhubarb and some very nice looking radishes. It was also about 35 degrees and raining, but still crowded, which was awesome. My captcha word for this comment was “dinner” - thematic spam control! We get our most reliable farm-fresh egg supply during farmer’s market season, which started for us this week. I have had two of the most transcendent egg sandwiches ever to celebrate. Thanks for the link through to Krista Anderson Ross’ blog - I’ll definitely be checking that out. I think it’s just what I’ve been looking for, or would have been looking for if I had taken the time to look.

The Corvallis market doesn’t yet have the bounty of the park blocks market, but we did get some wonderful looking collards, the aforementioned eggs, rhubarb and some very nice looking radishes. It was also about 35 degrees and raining, but still crowded, which was awesome.

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